Late fall 2021 Picked up a pair of these XXL Gloves which were well worn, off a gravel road ...With covid on I thought what could possibly go wrong? so i tried them on. Surprisingly loved the fit so worn them all winter...Absolutely best 2nd hand gloves Ever. So did a search and found same here at Edmonton Ind/Tools and bought a New Pair. You can't go wrong with these Warm at -40 and comfy once broken in, rail guud a Dam near as guud as a well trained Dawg.....if y'all git me drift